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Getting Started [message #531483]

Wed, 16 November 2011 05:29

erics44
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Hi
I would like to get started on developing with oracle forms.

Could you point me in the right direction as i am unsure of what i need to download and install.

I am using windows 7.

Thanks

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Re: Getting Started [message #531566 is a reply to message #531483]

Wed, 16 November 2011 15:33

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Review the search results.

Basically, no Oracle has ever been certified with any Windows Home edition, so - if your Windows 7 is a Home edition, forget it. Otherwise, only the newest Forms (i.e. the one contained within the Fusion Middleware) is certified on Windows 7. There are ways to install and run older versions - review the search results now (if you skipped them).

My favourite option is a Virtual Box under XP which successfully runs Forms 10g (used in my company, so I didn't test other versions and combinations).

P.S. If your Manchester is the same as cookiemonster's rainy Manchester, I suppose he could explain it all to you in a matter of a couple of beers /forum/fa/1602/0/

[Updated on: Wed, 16 November 2011 15:37]

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Re: Getting Started [message #531756 is a reply to message #531566]

Thu, 17 November 2011 08:51

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hey
sounds like the same manchester Smile

I have managed to install 10g and i fancy getting cracking with that

I am reading a lot about weblogic now and how that is the place to be

That only seems to be available in 11g tho, am i right or am I completely wrong?

Is weblogic a new method of developing with forms?

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Re: Getting Started [message #531795 is a reply to message #531756]

Thu, 17 November 2011 12:17

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erics44 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2011 15:51

Is weblogic a new method of developing with forms?

Can't tell; my company uses Developer Suite 10g (downloadable here, at the bottom of the page). I see a lot of people working with Forms 6i. Weblogic is the newest, so I suppose it IS a new method, as you put it.

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Re: Getting Started [message #531807 is a reply to message #531483]

Thu, 17 November 2011 14:54

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Can i download 11g for free do you know?

Ive looked on the oracle site but dont seem to be able to

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Re: Getting Started [message #531808 is a reply to message #531807]

Thu, 17 November 2011 15:01

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>Can i download 11g for free do you know?
yes

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/index.html

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Re: Getting Started [message #531809 is a reply to message #531808]

Thu, 17 November 2011 15:07

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Does that download include the form and report developer tools?

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Re: Getting Started [message #531810 is a reply to message #531809]

Thu, 17 November 2011 15:09

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I have read the overview and it doesnt mention it, it only mentions the dtabase

I m brand new to all this by the wy so its very likely i dont know what im talking bout

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Re: Getting Started [message #531811 is a reply to message #531809]

Thu, 17 November 2011 15:10

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>Does that download include the form and report developer tools?
no

You need to clarify exactly what you desire.
all available downloads can be reached from

http://otn.oracle.com
free registration is required to obtain access; just like here

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Re: Getting Started [message #531815 is a reply to message #531811]

Thu, 17 November 2011 15:34

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I want to build applications using forms and reports and i want to learn weblogic

I have the access and have donloaded from there before

I have just installed 10g and have had a little look around but dont really want to get my teath into it if there is a more recent tool

The 10g i have is the forms and reports developer tools (amongst several other things)

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Re: Getting Started [message #531818 is a reply to message #531483]

Thu, 17 November 2011 17:06

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>I am using windows 7.
Oracle does NOT certify it software for any Windows Home Edition
& reports indicate DB problems can & do occur on Windows 7 Home

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Re: Getting Started [message #531846 is a reply to message #531818]

Fri, 18 November 2011 01:08

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maybe

but is there a Oracle Developer Suit 11g I can download from the oracle site do you know?

Smile

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Re: Getting Started [message #531858 is a reply to message #531846]

Fri, 18 November 2011 01:51

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Not separately. Forms & Reports, in their 11th edition, are part of Fusion Middleware. These are development tools. In order to work with them, you need a database; 11g R2 is the newest (but is large); maybe you'll be interested in a much smaller, but yet fully operational 11g XE.

All Oracle products are free until put into production, so you can test them, learn as much as you want, but can not "make money" on them - in that case, you need to get a license (which costs much). On the other hand, certain products are free "forever", such as XE databases and, for example, Application Express.

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Re: Getting Started [message #531862 is a reply to message #531858]

Fri, 18 November 2011 02:18

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Thanks a lot for the reply

I am testing the software for work to see how suitable it is for our needs

we already have a database (version 9.4 I think)

thanks again

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Re: Getting Started [message #531864 is a reply to message #531862]

Fri, 18 November 2011 02:19

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Sorry if i sound daft again but is it just the first windows download link i need on this page?

under the header

For Development:
Oracle WebLogic Server 11g Rel 1 (10.3.5) Installers

?

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Re: Getting Started [message #531874 is a reply to message #531864]

Fri, 18 November 2011 04:04

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As it says "For Development" - yes. You don't want JDeveloper nor Deployment software so - this is what you are looking for, I presume.

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Re: Getting Started [message #531880 is a reply to message #531874]

Fri, 18 November 2011 04:19

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just one more daft question

is this download an update from the 10g development suit?

so does it have all of development software including forms and reports development environments?

thanks again for your time

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Re: Getting Started [message #531882 is a reply to message #531880]

Fri, 18 November 2011 04:28

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You: is this download an update from the 10g development suit?
Me: Update? What update? I don't think so, it is a brand new product.

You: does it have all of development software including forms and reports development environments?
Me: As far as I can tell, yes, it includes Forms & Reports Builders.

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Re: Getting Started [message #531886 is a reply to message #531882]

Fri, 18 November 2011 04:55

erics44
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by update i just meant the next version Smile

thanks for all your help

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